tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post4317369642694091065..comments2023-10-12T03:25:20.489-05:00Comments on Awkward Things My Mother Never Told Me: Just How Violating a Pap Smear Really Is...Amber Sunshinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08487471617945987354noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-11432029316511770642019-11-13T01:02:52.113-06:002019-11-13T01:02:52.113-06:00I am so sorry for what happened to you. I lived ...I am so sorry for what happened to you. I lived through what you described. It is an evil thing to put women through. A pervert divised this procedure. We must find a way to band together and outlaw mandatory pap tests. I have written a few other posts on this blog. Thank you again for your post that validates so many women's experienceCervical cancer is a S.T. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644016690632669347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-31085758732569508402019-11-13T00:53:53.156-06:002019-11-13T00:53:53.156-06:00No sex with a man equals no possibility for cervic...No sex with a man equals no possibility for cervical cancer. Pap smears are a tremendous money maker for doctors. It is also a way for them to feel powerful. Some of them also enjoy nude young women. Thank you for your post. I wrote a long post. On this blog somewhere . Don't feel you need to get the exams if you are not sleeping with a man. There is a lot of propaganda in the medical field. Cervical cancer is a S.T. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644016690632669347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-57775095061176022092019-11-13T00:44:38.286-06:002019-11-13T00:44:38.286-06:00Don't reply to trolls. Your views are valid a...Don't reply to trolls. Your views are valid and I am glad you wrote your excellent post Cervical cancer is a S.T. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04644016690632669347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-27736799724492338092018-06-21T14:06:16.681-05:002018-06-21T14:06:16.681-05:00I COMPLETELY agree with you. I get that they save ...I COMPLETELY agree with you. I get that they save lives, but I feel so ugly and unsexy for months afterwards. I've had a bunch of "all clear" paps. Can I just be done now?<br /><br />My husband forgot I had one today, and he wanted to initiate sex after he got off work. I felt so gross and violated that I rejected him and told him to wait till I feel better. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-17254555930189508162017-11-14T20:34:50.739-06:002017-11-14T20:34:50.739-06:00I am a very protective male. I would NEVER allow ...I am a very protective male. I would NEVER allow another man access to my wife’s or daughter’s most private parts. I am also an attorney who does medical malpractice cases. Most of these guys went into that specialty for a reason. They are perverts. It is not scientific or “medical.” It is sexual. They get off on it. I have heard them talk. They take mental pictures and jack off later. And they are egocentric and smug? And have the attitude line “I have been totally intimate with you, a complete stranger, i have completely explored yiufvecerybiridscdvtj my geart’s Content;!you followed my every command, and you paid me to do it, despite the objections and disgust of your husbands or boyfriends.” I cannot, for the life of me, understand why a woman would justify it in her mind that a heterosexual male can finger her, see her naked, and access her vagina, breasts, anus, and body in general, in a way that even her husband never has? Strange men are not allowed access!!!! Wtf?!!! And these “doctors” linger and finger well beyond what would even be remotely “necessary.” I get sick to my stomach at the outright perversion of all males in this specialty and the naivety of the women who somehow justify it in their minds that it is ok to let these guys do whatever they want, gratuitously putting their fingers in vaginas and getting their thrills, but giving it a scientific name to somehow justify it. Some even purposely massage the clitoris to “make sure it is functioning.” It is disgusting what women let them get away with. I hope to sue many more of these perverted SOBs. Tom Manoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18403742088317215747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-17852100335296270112016-05-04T21:13:09.457-05:002016-05-04T21:13:09.457-05:00I've only had to get 2 exams down there. I jus...I've only had to get 2 exams down there. I just went today for the 2nd time and I was completely traumatized. I feel as though I could shower and never be clean. I don't like unknown people poking and prodding down there. It's unacceptable and I had a full blown panic attack during which continued after and is going on as I'm writing this. I don't know how I'm going to have kids. I've already decided I want them c-section only and even then I'm going to refuse them looking at my parts. I don't care how badly they need to. I'm honestly so traumatized by this I feel like I'm not even going to go when pregnant even if I need to. It's horrible and uncalled for. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11595880400419105986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-50643537605380878272012-11-12T06:49:33.732-06:002012-11-12T06:49:33.732-06:00Take a look at the new Dutch program, it highlight...Take a look at the new Dutch program, it highlights the harmful excess in most countries...most women are not even at risk from cervix cancer and pap testing just carries risk for them...from over-treatment and excess biopsies. The Dutch will offer women 5 hrHPV primary triage tests at ages 30,35,40,50 and 60 and only the roughly 5% who are HPV positive and at risk will be offered a 5 yearly pap test. MOST women will be HPV negative, not currently at risk and they will be offered the remaining HPV primary tests and there is a reliable HPV self-test, the Delphi Screener. Those HPV negative and no longer sexually active or confidently monogamous may choose to stop all further testing.<br /><br />There was never a need to worry and harm so many as Finland and the Dutch have shown with their long standing 6-7 pap test programs, 5 yearly from 30 to 60, the Finns have the lowest rates of this rare cancer in the world, the Dutch have no more than Australia and probably less than the States, but Finland and the Dutch have much lower referral rates (over-treatment rates)<br />IMO, pap testing has been used, especially in the States and Australia, to create a vast and hugely profitable industry in the over-treatment of CIN and women have paid a very high price with their health and quality of life. I'm SO grateful that I got to the facts decades ago and have always refused to test, an informed decision...it has been horrible to watch the damage, worry and fear caused by this program.<br /><br /> Women will have to demand smarter testing and some respect for informed consent...vested interests run deep and will not give up their highly profitable turf without a fight. If this testing were about women's healthcare we'd have evidence based testing, not serious over-screening that leads straight to potentially harmful over-treatment...these programs do not benefit women.<br />HPV Today, Edition 24, sets out the new Dutch program and the Delphi Bioscience site covers the self-test option.Eliz52https://www.blogger.com/profile/08657584543518697641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-39430020641047292652012-10-15T16:43:44.488-05:002012-10-15T16:43:44.488-05:00For years ther has been alternatives to smear test...For years ther has been alternatives to smear test, for example, the CSA blood test. If youwant furhter info on this subject, please join this facebook group<br />https://www.facebook.com/groups/106150077602/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-70929691296809694562012-06-27T20:58:09.808-05:002012-06-27T20:58:09.808-05:00i find the test invasive, i have a
problem that ca...i find the test invasive, i have a<br />problem that causes me to get very tense if i attempt a pap smear. <br /><br />its not worth the trauma it causes me.<br /><br />they do need a better method of testing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292263342003977668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-49795625452610706452010-08-26T17:33:27.799-05:002010-08-26T17:33:27.799-05:00Go to blogcritics and unnecessary pap smears - the...Go to blogcritics and unnecessary pap smears - there are lots of informative articles linked from the site. Also, Dr Joel Sherman's medical privacy blog under women's privacy issues. See research by Dr Raffle and Richard deMay.<br />There is a lot you don't know about this testing and many are concerned at the risks of this testing, the limited benefits and the complete lack of respect for informed consent. When 99% of women derive no benefit from smears, but all face a very high risk of false positives and completely unnecessary and potentially harmful treatment and biopsies, you need to be careful with this test.<br />Testing before 25 is unsafe and unreliable...and testing 5 yearly reduces the risk but still gives great protection against a rare cancer. (if you choose to have smears)<br />Dr's cannot demand pap smears in return for birth control, that is illegal and against the Patient Bill of Rights. Challenge the Dr or report him/her.<br />As a low risk woman I made an informed decision not to screen many years ago.Eliz52https://www.blogger.com/profile/08657584543518697641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-28020776854907002712009-10-03T17:48:37.127-05:002009-10-03T17:48:37.127-05:00I got my first pap smear yesterday. I'm not a ...I got my first pap smear yesterday. I'm not a big crying type, but I cried like a baby. It was the most tramatizing experience of my life. I'm 18 and I've only had one partner for the year I've been sexually active. The breast exam that went with the pap smear was simply awkward; but I dealt with it just fine. The metal "spectrum" upset me and that was bad enough. But the worst part for me, that has left me horrified and with nightmares, is what came next. Nobody told me going into this that the doctor was going to shove her hand all the way up to basically my stomach. EXCUSE ME?! Why does nobody see this as completely violating!! I cried so hard. Today being the day after, I keep reliving it and I don't want anyone to touch me and I just feel disgusted.<br />Why can't they figure out an alternative to being fingered to test for Cancer. I should not be subjected to this, especially at my age I don't think. Not to mention that I was pretty much forced to get one if I wanted birth control. That just seems wrong to me. I try to be save and prevent a child at this time and my life and what am I forced to do? Be humiliated, violated, and tramatized. Somebody really needs to come up with another plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-79699609402463302082009-05-22T16:13:50.312-05:002009-05-22T16:13:50.312-05:00I get the humor! Your posts are great.I get the humor! Your posts are great.ashliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11837569202225894244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-44902287610406129852009-05-22T16:13:49.787-05:002009-05-22T16:13:49.787-05:00I get the humor! Your posts are great.I get the humor! Your posts are great.ashliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11837569202225894244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-35577166453422233722009-04-23T21:59:00.000-05:002009-04-23T21:59:00.000-05:00Im so glad you are discussing this topic. I am 21 ...Im so glad you are discussing this topic. I am 21 and today i went for my first smear..UGHH i freaked out, cried and had to leave with a vicodin prescription...which is pretty straaaaight. but, the point of my frustration is that I, like you, feel as though i am being violated, and sexually assaulted. I feel overly anxious due to the vulnerability of the situation, and all of this despite the truth of the matter- the Test is meant to protect. Its not even like ive never had sex. it is just that i have trouble being prodded and fingered by a metal prong. <br />Simply said -- i feel for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-63225433696413215042009-03-24T22:58:00.000-05:002009-03-24T22:58:00.000-05:00I bet the docs are thinking about why the old peop...I bet the docs are thinking about why the old people on Survivor almost always get kicked off first. If I were an OB/GYN, that's what I would do. Seems like a perfect time to contemplate all the happenings on my reality tv shows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-85137632432378601992009-03-05T19:20:00.000-06:002009-03-05T19:20:00.000-06:00Wow...so you missed the part where i get them so i...Wow...so you missed the part where i get them so i believe that they save lives...I just love how the intended humor seems to be lost on everyone commenting on this post...perhaps it's a lost cause this week....Amber Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958316669267564937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-29757203355619195812009-03-05T15:56:00.000-06:002009-03-05T15:56:00.000-06:00Pap Smears save lives. I don't see any violation i...Pap Smears save lives. I don't see any violation in that.JRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02832340690266079290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-84813083927289550802009-03-04T18:16:00.000-06:002009-03-04T18:16:00.000-06:00Yes I am an uptight prude about pap smears...and I...Yes I am an uptight prude about pap smears...and I'm quite ok with that...If I let a man violate I might start hating men and treating them badly...because women are just that crazy...might I suggest you go get one before you mock uptight prudishness...Amber Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958316669267564937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7411282501671432330.post-63197228853868213232009-03-04T11:08:00.000-06:002009-03-04T11:08:00.000-06:00What's the big deal? So the doctor see you nude. S...What's the big deal? So the doctor see you nude. So what. And why does it have to be a female doctor? A male doctor is still a doctor. Or are you some kind of uptight prude?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com